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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-105579</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It starts with the biased moderation on their forums.  This was written in 2006 and nothing has changed at Blizzard since then, so I\&#039;m making note of that now.

One look at their Customer Service forums will show you quite clearly that Blizzard has the worst array of paid idiots going.

Their newest addition to the frey is Syndri.  She will lock any thread that hits the nail on Blizzard\&#039;s coffin.  She will entertain and bump every thread that ridicules the one complaining and is succeeding in ripping the poster to shreds.

This is what she promotes.  Dissention, abuse and tolerance when she says so.

Blizzard really dug to the bottom of the barrel hiring that dumbass.  You can report her for encouraging the bias over and over and wonder who she is boffing that she gets away with it.

It starts with Blizzard.  When they condone unscrupulous behavior, the unscrupulous flock.  That\&#039;s why this game is the shambles that it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It starts with the biased moderation on their forums.  This was written in 2006 and nothing has changed at Blizzard since then, so I\&#8217;m making note of that now.</p>
<p>One look at their Customer Service forums will show you quite clearly that Blizzard has the worst array of paid idiots going.</p>
<p>Their newest addition to the frey is Syndri.  She will lock any thread that hits the nail on Blizzard\&#8217;s coffin.  She will entertain and bump every thread that ridicules the one complaining and is succeeding in ripping the poster to shreds.</p>
<p>This is what she promotes.  Dissention, abuse and tolerance when she says so.</p>
<p>Blizzard really dug to the bottom of the barrel hiring that dumbass.  You can report her for encouraging the bias over and over and wonder who she is boffing that she gets away with it.</p>
<p>It starts with Blizzard.  When they condone unscrupulous behavior, the unscrupulous flock.  That\&#8217;s why this game is the shambles that it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Damore</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Damore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have to say after reading you first entry I was somewhat aggravated. 
This was due to the fact that I have kicked players for 1) Not speaking well 
enough or speaking to 1337 for my taste.
 2) Because they were a known Farmer with a rep for crazy style
Ninja tactics the likes we haven&#039;t seen for almost millennia. Now is that 
racism? Na I think mostly your just looking at it all from a very close-minded
point of view. Race is as it would apply to racism is probably 99.99999999% of 
the time, the furthest thing from any one playings minds. Although I grant you 
racism is out there it does not often raise its ugly head in our fun loving 
games. We might steal every dime ya have in AH, but well steal it from ya no 
matter what color you are or language you speak. Just so ya know where I
am coming from, I have been kicked out of a restraunt for being American. Also 
I have seen a friend hospitalized for 3 weeks by police for being American.
What kind of experience do you have with REAL racism to even comment on 
the subject?(not only two examples I could give!) But..... Then I read your 
comment on a feedback system to rate a ninjas devastating martial style for
all to see, and I said hey : D that&#039;s a damn fine idea. Wish there was a way 
to implement it.

REMEMBER half the time people who cry racism are just as bad as the racists!!!! 
The other half they are actually being discriminated against, but for those one
 there is not usually some one around to hear them and that&#039;s a damn shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have to say after reading you first entry I was somewhat aggravated.<br />
This was due to the fact that I have kicked players for 1) Not speaking well<br />
enough or speaking to 1337 for my taste.<br />
 2) Because they were a known Farmer with a rep for crazy style<br />
Ninja tactics the likes we haven&#8217;t seen for almost millennia. Now is that<br />
racism? Na I think mostly your just looking at it all from a very close-minded<br />
point of view. Race is as it would apply to racism is probably 99.99999999% of<br />
the time, the furthest thing from any one playings minds. Although I grant you<br />
racism is out there it does not often raise its ugly head in our fun loving<br />
games. We might steal every dime ya have in AH, but well steal it from ya no<br />
matter what color you are or language you speak. Just so ya know where I<br />
am coming from, I have been kicked out of a restraunt for being American. Also<br />
I have seen a friend hospitalized for 3 weeks by police for being American.<br />
What kind of experience do you have with REAL racism to even comment on<br />
the subject?(not only two examples I could give!) But&#8230;.. Then I read your<br />
comment on a feedback system to rate a ninjas devastating martial style for<br />
all to see, and I said hey : D that&#8217;s a damn fine idea. Wish there was a way<br />
to implement it.</p>
<p>REMEMBER half the time people who cry racism are just as bad as the racists!!!!<br />
The other half they are actually being discriminated against, but for those one<br />
 there is not usually some one around to hear them and that&#8217;s a damn shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Linn</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just dropping in to apologise!  I keep forgetting to check for response on comments and that I promised myself I would stop commenting before double checking everything.  I&#039;m so sorry...I&#039;ve just read the words &#039;press release&#039; thrown into the question several places so I just assumed it was Blizzard.  But it&#039;s the same one linked here, a press release from World of Warcraft Gold.  To be honest, it all smells like a pr stunt.  
I&#039;m so sorry to see that this has spawned a tornado of hatred.  That&#039;s scary stuff, I mean really scary!  Saddens me!
But anyways...sorry about that!  Will ofcourse double check all information twice before writing anything again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just dropping in to apologise!  I keep forgetting to check for response on comments and that I promised myself I would stop commenting before double checking everything.  I&#8217;m so sorry&#8230;I&#8217;ve just read the words &#8216;press release&#8217; thrown into the question several places so I just assumed it was Blizzard.  But it&#8217;s the same one linked here, a press release from World of Warcraft Gold.  To be honest, it all smells like a pr stunt.<br />
I&#8217;m so sorry to see that this has spawned a tornado of hatred.  That&#8217;s scary stuff, I mean really scary!  Saddens me!<br />
But anyways&#8230;sorry about that!  Will ofcourse double check all information twice before writing anything again!</p>
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		<title>By: Letifer</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Letifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you forgot these types of posts: C) The ones that criticize you in such a way that if people were to read it, it&#039;d ruin whatever rep you had.  But hey, some people can take it and others can&#039;t.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you forgot these types of posts: C) The ones that criticize you in such a way that if people were to read it, it&#8217;d ruin whatever rep you had.  But hey, some people can take it and others can&#8217;t.  :P</p>
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		<title>By: David J Edery</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>David J Edery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letifer -- your comment is absurd on so many levels that I&#039;m not sure how to respond. There are 100 comments attacking me personally on this blog. I&#039;ve left them *all* up -- including the ones that call me &quot;dirty Jew&quot;. Go read them. The only things I&#039;ve deleted are: A) a double comment that the poster explicitely asked me to remove, and B) a series of extremely offensive comments made by one person on the original thread that linked to KKK.com and contained nothing but slurs or junk text. Everything else, even the stuff I find totally repugnant, has stayed up. 

You&#039;re entitled to your opinion and welcome to make all the comments that you want, but please, put a micro-second of thought into them first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letifer &#8212; your comment is absurd on so many levels that I&#8217;m not sure how to respond. There are 100 comments attacking me personally on this blog. I&#8217;ve left them *all* up &#8212; including the ones that call me &#8220;dirty Jew&#8221;. Go read them. The only things I&#8217;ve deleted are: A) a double comment that the poster explicitely asked me to remove, and B) a series of extremely offensive comments made by one person on the original thread that linked to KKK.com and contained nothing but slurs or junk text. Everything else, even the stuff I find totally repugnant, has stayed up. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion and welcome to make all the comments that you want, but please, put a micro-second of thought into them first.</p>
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		<title>By: Letifer</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Letifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was someone&#039;s comment deleted?  I remember the nature of their comment, and that&#039;s why I remember it.  Are you one of those people that can&#039;t take criticism?  The poster had many vaild points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was someone&#8217;s comment deleted?  I remember the nature of their comment, and that&#8217;s why I remember it.  Are you one of those people that can&#8217;t take criticism?  The poster had many vaild points.</p>
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		<title>By: silverwing</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>silverwing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok frist i would like to say that i am personaly not
 rascist and i am i player on world of warcraft and in
my 1 and half years playing the game have i EVER herd
such nonsense.I have never herd of racsist players on 
WOW (only on wow i have herd of it on other games i
rather not mention)infact i perfer to say that i find 
the wow game to be a very comfy place for people 
around the world to play on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok frist i would like to say that i am personaly not<br />
 rascist and i am i player on world of warcraft and in<br />
my 1 and half years playing the game have i EVER herd<br />
such nonsense.I have never herd of racsist players on<br />
WOW (only on wow i have herd of it on other games i<br />
rather not mention)infact i perfer to say that i find<br />
the wow game to be a very comfy place for people<br />
around the world to play on.</p>
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		<title>By: Letifer</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Letifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, the thing people construe as racism more often than not isn&#039;t.  In one of my current guilds, the words &#039;nigger&#039;, &#039;jew&#039;, spic&#039;, etc. fly around constantly.  They are never to be taken seriously.  The internet is a wonderful place where freedom of speech exists in its purest form.  While on the internet, there is no fear of being punched in the face of someone who is offended by any comment made.  Sure, you often get cocky 12 or 13 year olds taking advantage of this anonymity and honestly might be racist, but I would safely say that 85-90% of all &#039;racist comments&#039; were never meant to offend anyone.  Some people have harsh senses of humor, and not all people enjoy it.  When I first saw the chat in that guild I thought everyone in the guild to be racist.  After awhile I learned that at most, half of the guild is comprised of white males.  There is every race represented in the guild, and nobody has a problem with it.

Now I know that there is the occasional actual racist action or remark, but 9 times out of 10, it will just be in good fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, the thing people construe as racism more often than not isn&#8217;t.  In one of my current guilds, the words &#8216;nigger&#8217;, &#8216;jew&#8217;, spic&#8217;, etc. fly around constantly.  They are never to be taken seriously.  The internet is a wonderful place where freedom of speech exists in its purest form.  While on the internet, there is no fear of being punched in the face of someone who is offended by any comment made.  Sure, you often get cocky 12 or 13 year olds taking advantage of this anonymity and honestly might be racist, but I would safely say that 85-90% of all &#8216;racist comments&#8217; were never meant to offend anyone.  Some people have harsh senses of humor, and not all people enjoy it.  When I first saw the chat in that guild I thought everyone in the guild to be racist.  After awhile I learned that at most, half of the guild is comprised of white males.  There is every race represented in the guild, and nobody has a problem with it.</p>
<p>Now I know that there is the occasional actual racist action or remark, but 9 times out of 10, it will just be in good fun.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only is racism in the game WOW look at Counter-strike and those FPS games...
You cannot join a server without nigger or jew or wetback etc being written said etc... 
soo this issue isnt only a problem in WOW but all games and really shouldnt be an issue
to start out with because its gonna happen theres no LAW&#039;s against it because its over the internet
. so this really is a dead issue there isnt much anyone can do about it. 
In your first post about the bonus points... that will lead to more and more issues./</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only is racism in the game WOW look at Counter-strike and those FPS games&#8230;<br />
You cannot join a server without nigger or jew or wetback etc being written said etc&#8230;<br />
soo this issue isnt only a problem in WOW but all games and really shouldnt be an issue<br />
to start out with because its gonna happen theres no LAW&#8217;s against it because its over the internet<br />
. so this really is a dead issue there isnt much anyone can do about it.<br />
In your first post about the bonus points&#8230; that will lead to more and more issues./</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.edery.org/2006/01/feedback-firestorm/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to point out that in my experience I have not seen a great deal of discrimination toward people that speak poor english but can read and understand and communicate quickly enough to get the job done. There are plenty of people who play WoW that are native english  speakers that would fall into the same category. However, I have seen a whole lot of both discrimination -and- bile toward people that speak almost no english, can&#039;t follow directions, or especially that will send tells or ask questions like &#039;U chinese&#039; - and unfortunately this sort of person comprises the vast majority of my experience with nonnative english speakers in MMO settings. As mentioned in my reply to the last post, people who can&#039;t communicate in a coherent or somewhat fluent way are going to get excluded from most activities I participate in for the same reason I wouldn&#039;t read a novel in broken english, but I don&#039;t really consider that discrimination against those from other countries as I also exclude plenty of people that are lazy or naturally poor native english speakers.

But as I said above and as other comments said above, I honestly don&#039;t feel this subset of discrimination, against poor but not terrible nonnative english speakers, is rampant. I haven&#039;t seen it at all simply because there aren&#039;t enough people in that category.. I&#039;d say comfortably 95% (19 in 20) or more of my interactions with nonenglish speakers has been a very unpleasant one, and making what is potentially a racist assumption that any given interaction is going to be with someone of this sort is fairly hard to attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that in my experience I have not seen a great deal of discrimination toward people that speak poor english but can read and understand and communicate quickly enough to get the job done. There are plenty of people who play WoW that are native english  speakers that would fall into the same category. However, I have seen a whole lot of both discrimination -and- bile toward people that speak almost no english, can&#8217;t follow directions, or especially that will send tells or ask questions like &#8216;U chinese&#8217; &#8211; and unfortunately this sort of person comprises the vast majority of my experience with nonnative english speakers in MMO settings. As mentioned in my reply to the last post, people who can&#8217;t communicate in a coherent or somewhat fluent way are going to get excluded from most activities I participate in for the same reason I wouldn&#8217;t read a novel in broken english, but I don&#8217;t really consider that discrimination against those from other countries as I also exclude plenty of people that are lazy or naturally poor native english speakers.</p>
<p>But as I said above and as other comments said above, I honestly don&#8217;t feel this subset of discrimination, against poor but not terrible nonnative english speakers, is rampant. I haven&#8217;t seen it at all simply because there aren&#8217;t enough people in that category.. I&#8217;d say comfortably 95% (19 in 20) or more of my interactions with nonenglish speakers has been a very unpleasant one, and making what is potentially a racist assumption that any given interaction is going to be with someone of this sort is fairly hard to attack.</p>
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